Comments on: A distant dream comes true with Django

By: Joseph Jude

Joseph Jude — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:07:03 +0000

I am floored by all the attention that this article got – Jacob has left a comment! Thank you all for the time you spent in reading and double thanks to all who left comments.

By: John Tam

John Tam — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:12:18 +0000

Yes, you’re right.
What i should do is focusing on the tasks, not sit on the fence and watch the languages/frameworks wars day by day. It can’t help finish my work.

By: whaley

whaley — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:20:21 +0000

“The RTFM is sadly too common, it seems that people dont want to help. Often have i seen it. These people claim that they are friendly, but they are very bossy on IRC.”

Not true. People say “RTFM” because we don’t want to spoonfeed anyone. We always point them to the appropriate section in the manual when we do so too. If someone asking for help hasn’t consulted the docs or google it is, 99 times out of a 100, really obvious. Learning how to program and develop is best learned by experimentation and reading… not by asking questions on irc.

By: Rintoul

Rintoul — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:14:05 +0000

@she: To what “they” are you referring..?

By: kthodla

kthodla — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:21:47 +0000

You just inspired me to land on the other side of the fence rather than just straddling it. I bought the Django book, and will start on my website this week(end). Thanks

By: Vine77

Vine77 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:10:57 +0000

Oh, and I don’t mean to detract from Rails in any way. I think it’s very solid and there’s no question it does what it promises…

Django was just a better technological fit.

By: Vine77

Vine77 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:08:52 +0000

You know, I was sitting on the fence for a long time, teetering between Django and Rails. Originally, I chose the latter because I’m an extreme newbie trying to build a business and thought the larger community would be more helpful and provide more security.

Well, it never just felt right and for months I thought it was my inexperience and lack of innate programming ability. But then I downloaded Dive into Python and read the Django tutorials and I was off and running. It just seemed so logical and well-documented.

I’m still a little shy about asking questions because I don’t want to abuse the help/get laughed at, but I really like the community vibe.

And just because I felt so grateful, I went and bought the Django book just to support the cause. It’s that good.

By: Jacob Kaplan-Moss

Jacob Kaplan-Moss — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:53:41 +0000

Thanks for the kind words! It’s stuff like this thats makes the whole Open Source thing so great; I really do appreciate it.

By: she

she — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:41:34 +0000

The RTFM is sadly too common, it seems that people dont want to help. Often have i seen it. These people claim that they are friendly, but they are very bossy on IRC.

It also does not help if you point out that manuals suck anyway. Very technical, hardly examples, annoying format (so few stuff available on the www normally).

I think what they need to understand is that documentation is not about providing information, but about TEACHING people, making the UNDERSTAND.

Reading a fucking manual alone isnt enough at all there.