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	<description>all will be well finally</description>
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		<title>By: Salil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

&quot;While I was looking at life naively, life looked back with a sarcastic smile&quot; - very well written blog.

Don&#039;t want to comment on your personal views/opinions though you know my view on the matter.

Cheers,
Salil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>&#8220;While I was looking at life naively, life looked back with a sarcastic smile&#8221; &#8211; very well written blog.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t want to comment on your personal views/opinions though you know my view on the matter.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Salil</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

First of all, let me say I am sorry to hear about the death of your young brother. I think that it is a very talked about topic among Christians whether children go to heaven.

I think that the answer is definitely a YES that they do. In the bible, David, a man of God who has no doubts that he will go to heaven when he dies. When his young son is killed he says this:

2 Samuel 12:23:
&quot;But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.&quot;

From John Macarthur:

&quot;Another interesting thing that occurs numerous times in the Old Testament, is that children (including those who die) are referred to as &quot;innocent.&quot; The Hebrew word that is used for &quot;innocent&quot; is used numerous times in the Old Testament to refer to &quot;not being guilty&quot; -- literally, &quot;being taken to court and found &#039;not guilty.&#039;&quot; In fact, the OT refers to the babies that were passed through the fire to Moloch [false god] as the &quot;innocents,&quot; so I believe that God, prior to the &quot;age of accountability&quot; treats them as &quot;innocent.&quot; It doesn&#039;t mean that they are not fallen; it doesn&#039;t mean that they are not sinful -- it does mean that God mercifully treats them as &quot;innocent&quot; in spite of that, and He has to exercise grace to do that, just as He exercises grace to save those who believe.&quot;

About your previous church experiences: There is not much I can say about that other than that mankind is sinful. The pastor of your church was obviously not following God closely. The goal of a Christian is to become more Christ-like. Although I know it is hard to see a pastor, who is supposed to be a role model, mess up. With all that said, man is not perfect, only Jesus is perfect.

Joseph, have you ever read the book, &quot;The Case for Christ&quot; by Lee Strobel? It is about the author, a devout atheist, writing a book to prove the bible and Christianity false.

I pray God opens your heart again.

Molly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>First of all, let me say I am sorry to hear about the death of your young brother. I think that it is a very talked about topic among Christians whether children go to heaven.</p>
<p>I think that the answer is definitely a YES that they do. In the bible, David, a man of God who has no doubts that he will go to heaven when he dies. When his young son is killed he says this:</p>
<p>2 Samuel 12:23:<br />
&#8220;But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>From John Macarthur:</p>
<p>&#8220;Another interesting thing that occurs numerous times in the Old Testament, is that children (including those who die) are referred to as &#8220;innocent.&#8221; The Hebrew word that is used for &#8220;innocent&#8221; is used numerous times in the Old Testament to refer to &#8220;not being guilty&#8221; &#8212; literally, &#8220;being taken to court and found &#8216;not guilty.&#8217;&#8221; In fact, the OT refers to the babies that were passed through the fire to Moloch [false god] as the &#8220;innocents,&#8221; so I believe that God, prior to the &#8220;age of accountability&#8221; treats them as &#8220;innocent.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t mean that they are not fallen; it doesn&#8217;t mean that they are not sinful &#8212; it does mean that God mercifully treats them as &#8220;innocent&#8221; in spite of that, and He has to exercise grace to do that, just as He exercises grace to save those who believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>About your previous church experiences: There is not much I can say about that other than that mankind is sinful. The pastor of your church was obviously not following God closely. The goal of a Christian is to become more Christ-like. Although I know it is hard to see a pastor, who is supposed to be a role model, mess up. With all that said, man is not perfect, only Jesus is perfect.</p>
<p>Joseph, have you ever read the book, &#8220;The Case for Christ&#8221; by Lee Strobel? It is about the author, a devout atheist, writing a book to prove the bible and Christianity false.</p>
<p>I pray God opens your heart again.</p>
<p>Molly</p>
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